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>7 million turned out to be false (which isn’t surprising considering most servers are dead)
>even XIV has more subs than WoW
What the frick happened? How did the king get toppled like this by an anime game?
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- Anonymous
1 week ago
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Blizzard got taken over by generic greedy corpo personnel. Then all the talent left.
- Anonymous
1 week ago
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>even XIV as more sub than WoW
Not for long, Poochie the dilating cat is ready to ruin the game - Anonymous
1 week ago
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Look at the last trailer where they focus on a crippled black woman who suddenly shows up out of nowhere after 20 years.
- Anonymous
1 week ago
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>7 million turned out to be false
source?- Anonymous
1 week ago
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Asmongold
- Anonymous
1 week ago
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Not a source
- Anonymous
1 week ago
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There it is dood
- Anonymous
1 week ago
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>making a thread off what some random eceleb says
lol - Anonymous
1 week ago
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>the guy who benefit financially from wow being bad is saying wow being good is a lie.
ya he panic when the numbers was comming out and looked pissed. even if the numbers was release in a press release he would call it bs
- Anonymous
1 week ago
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sub numbers have started coming out again with blizzard under MS. 7 million isnt a lie lol.
- Anonymous
1 week ago
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Asmongold
Not a source
>Asmongold is not a source but for some reason Bellular is
- Anonymous
1 week ago
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I wonder if the people that make these pissing contest threads ever even play WoW or XIV.
- Anonymous
1 week ago
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>join 6 million players
Yeah, I wasn't buying the numbers back then either. Even counterstrike 2 has to have something closer to 250,000 - 500,000 concurrent monthly players- Anonymous
1 week ago
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That's daily concurrent. To get monthly unique users it's around 10x that.
- Anonymous
1 week ago
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No one working at blizzard know what the frick to do with this game, they pretend they have a plan in their reveals and dev videos but players get fed out from their sheer incompetency 2/3 weeks after a patch/expansion drops
- Anonymous
1 week ago
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>What the frick happened?
The put a try-hard lawyer in charge of the game. A game that poorly tried to balance content put even more focus into raiding with Mythic Raids. Now there was no development time placed on casuals, so the vast majority of people subscribed had nothing to do.>Added Raidfinder
Same mechanics yet required similar gear as the actual raids. Wipe, wipe, wipe. - Anonymous
1 week ago
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I played WoW for many years. Thing is no franchise can stay fresh forever. All the big franchises are losing relevance because they've been used and milked to the core.
- Anonymous
1 week ago
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True, but it's also the wokeness that dumbed down and censored WoW to pleasure the rainbow mafia.
>7 million turned out to be false
no it didnt
>even XIV has more subs than WoW
no it doesn't.nice bait thread, kys
>Even FFXIV has more subs than WoW
>But-- But--- No it doesn't!
It happened.- Anonymous
1 week ago
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ff14 never ever have had more subs or any close to wow. Not even at lowest point of wow. Youre delusional to think otherwise
- Anonymous
1 week ago
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I'm wondering how big of a turn around war within could have. The beta is getting tons of praise for both class changes and storylines.
Is there any chance of a comeback?
- Anonymous
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>7 million turned out to be false
no it didnt
>even XIV has more subs than WoW
no it doesn't.nice bait thread, kys
- Anonymous
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>All those bots
>owner would rather play solitaire instead - Anonymous
1 week ago
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wow look at all those active subs. no wonder ActiSoftBlizz doesn't care about bots. They are the bottomline.
- Anonymous
1 week ago
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Sure, and active subs =/= active players
- Anonymous
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I stopped playing classic like 6 months ago because of this sh*t. Legit feels like real players are like 1/40. It’s all chinks or hispanics trying to sell you sh*t
- Anonymous
1 week ago
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What the frick is wrong with you people? i hate wow but can we seriously stop with this bullsh*t saying xiv is more popular. it isnt?? xiv peakplayerbase all time has never even been half of wows. you also have no numbers to prove it. xiv has a tiny as frick playerbase and im tired of people pretending it doesnt.
if you seriously believe xiv is more popular you should have a nice day.
- Anonymous
1 week ago
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lol
lmao- Anonymous
1 week ago
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I know who you are, hom*osexual.
- Anonymous
1 week ago
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Oh ya?
- Anonymous
1 week ago
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gays and trannies in California.
I'm not even kidding. That's what did it.
Oh, women too. They did their fair share of destroying, as usual. - Anonymous
1 week ago
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FF14 versus WoW - The Reality
Are you tired of WoWgays sh*tting up your 14 thread? Tired of 14gays sh*tting all over your WoW thread? Me too. Both games are fun and do their own things great - and to plenty of things poorly. Maybe we'll see some trends Remember: only a troon deals in absolutes.
>Subs vs. Subs
Neither platform releases true numbers. Arguing this is a losing battle for either side because both sides will ultimately suggest the others numbers are incorrect (because they probably are) so let's breakdown some number assumptions based on data (with receipts).LuckyBancho publishes census data on "active characters" which states most recent count was 1.21 million. "Character" is not an account - so an account can hold multiple character contributions but for the sake of reality let's assume these are all unique accounts. About 512K characters have the PO/EA minion.
https://luckybancho.ldblog.jp/archives/58438400.htmlWoW are equally hush-hush about there numbers but leveraging some historical context paired with a questionable chart shown by Blizz at GDC we can ballpark where the numbers are at around 7.25 million for "World of Warcraft" as a whole (counting classics/etc).
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That puts World of Warcraft about 6x as big.
- Anonymous
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>Online Exposure
People love sh*tting on online presence but the reality is in all the cases covered here our sample size is E N O R M O U S. A comfortable benchmark sample size in data analytics usually sits tens to low hundreds of thousands to encapsulate the total USA. Our sample forging ahead is in the millions besides streamer/viewer engagement. "B-B-B-B-B-BUT THIS STUFF DOESN'T MATTER" Corporations pay hundreds of thousands per year for 3rd party survey data and panel data. Even when you lack confidence in the true numbers *directionality* can't be denied.Google Analytics - looking at 12ME current we see a story that resounds with our sub numbers. Search terms World of Warcraft and Final Fantasi XIV. We see a humongous spike absolutely drowning out FF14 to negligible presence when TWW trailer dropped. Expected, right? What's not seen is the important piece FF14 announced a trailer as well. Within the last 12 months. We the trend line only slightly overtake WoW then. Weeks leading into the expansion? Similar story. What's expecting here is, if 14 had some an overwhelming support base or online presence comped to WoW we would see a similar massive spike. We did not.
Trailer/Announcement Buzz - TWW Announce hit 4.5M views as of this creation. WoW's YouTube has 1.8M subscribers. The USA Dawntrail trailer has 1.1M views. Japan had 573k. All other areas sum 100K. Oddly enough, Germany's video has *more than the USA video* (quite literally suggesting 2% of the country watched it) it's strongly suggested these are botted numbers (likely aligned to the wrong region, here's looking at you USA). We add it all up, even the obvious bots, and FF14 falls short at 3.6 million. Subs? 685K.
- Anonymous
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Man that sure is a lot of cope
- Anonymous
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Streams/Streamer Viewership - WoW has almost 3x has many live viewers, 5x as many average viewers, nearly 5x as many at peak to boot. "We play the game, not watch it." Interesting since as of this post the average channels lagged behind only by 100 -- and yet the viewership is dramatically lower. 4x as many hours viewed and an overall ranking of WoW #19 and FF14 #47.
A summation isn't really needed. The stats are obvious. The disparity is obvious. The only metric where FF14 is a superior game is in ones own headcanon. Enjoy what you enjoy, but don't ever be so foolish as to suggest anything other than to the reality: hail to the king, baby.
- Anonymous
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>all these not player numbers prove higher player numbers
lol
- Anonymous
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Is War Within worth a resub? I'm so disappointed with XIV I'm taking a break at least until 7.1
- Anonymous
1 week ago
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Seems solid. Nothing godly, but fun enough. They've done a good job with heroic talents.
- Anonymous
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TWW seems to be more of the same, but with delves which could be nice solo content. If you're looking for a story since you're disappointed with 14, I'm hearing TWW isn't giving a good one, just an ok one. If you liked dragonflight, you'll probably like TWW though
- Anonymous
1 week ago
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I haven't played WoW since BFA
- Anonymous
1 week ago
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Then imagine BFA, but without azerite or the heart of azeroth. You also have a gear upgrade system and a system to turn gear into tier. Raid quality can vary, pvp is dead, and they're doing something new with M+ where you get both fortifying and tyrannical on high keys with a seasonal affix. If you tell me what you liked and didn't like in BFA I can give you a better idea on what to expect
- Anonymous
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>reddit+ still a focus
Jesus Christ- Anonymous
1 week ago
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You can still do really well without stepping foot into M+, I don't know the exact bis for every class but I'm pretty sure it's all raid gear or very close to it this season. It's just that M+ is very popular in the community and it's a good way to grind materials for the gear upgrades
- Anonymous
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Thanks for the massive wall of seethe, still not gonna read tho.
- Anonymous
1 week ago
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OSRS is way more alive than WoW, blizztroons seething over ffxiv is funny when they are getting BTFO anyways
- Anonymous
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>log onto WoW
>queue or manually find a group for whatever type of content
>always quickly find people
>go to auction house
>overflowing with whatever item I could ever desire
>go to the xpacs major city
>always filled with tons of people
I don't know what the EXACT number of real players are, but anyone who actually PLAYS WoW will know that the game is more alive than ever. XIVtrannies can keep coping with whatever the newest e-celeb clickbait WOW IS DEAD video all you want, but it's not going to change the fact that WoW is still the biggest and best MMO.- Anonymous
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ff14 never ever have had more subs or any close to wow. Not even at lowest point of wow. Youre delusional to think otherwise
>seething at the truth
- Anonymous
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One single shooting star in osrs has more players than the highest pop realm in wow’s expac city
- Anonymous
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>How did the king get toppled like this by an anime game?
People will literally eat sh*t if it's in anime format. It's disgusting.
Seriously, point me a single good game with good gameplay that is coated in anime aesthetics, and I'm not talking about just a "japanese" aesthetic, which would include games like DMC and God Hand and etc. Show me an actual ANIME game that is good. - Anonymous
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Am I the only one who wants FF14, WoW, and other MMOs to ALL be good and succeed?
The genre does best when there's competition to foster new ideas and innovations. We shouldn't celebrate any game being sh*t or declining. This tribalism only serves mediocrity. - Anonymous
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Both are sh*tty themepark MMORPGs that waste your time.
- Anonymous
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Mods for fricks sake frick off
- Anonymous
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Hermesbros..
- Anonymous
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>DBM
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Your cheats do more than track ability cooldowns, don't try to hide it. Some let you weave more attacks into your rotations by intentionally lagging your game and some literally press your buttons for you like in the case of PvP. You can't even compare WoW addons to the literal 3rd party cheats you Black folk use.
- Anonymous
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Bro I'm rushing the mother crystal gonna hit my lag switch for that ssssssick quad weave brooo
- Anonymous
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Oh I 100% agree. Ffxiv cheats are absolutely insane. Basically not a problem outside of pvp though. But that’s the thing even in PvP the actual hacks aren’t as bad and game ruining as simple wintrading.
But DBM is absolutely a cheat. It’s just like tier 2 compared to the tier 1 and 0 sh*t in ffxiv
- Anonymous
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You say that like Splatoon, Cactbot, and rotation bots don't exist.
MMOs are just a genre filled with degenerate cheaters, it just depends on your personal breakpoint for "what is cheating".- Anonymous
1 week ago
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???? I said ffxiv is full of tier 0 cheats, the creme de la creme. The apex of cheating. Doesn’t mean DBM isn’t a cheat. Motherfrickers actually think noclippy isn’t an insane speed hack that would be instantly banned in any game with anti-cheat
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So, what's the topic of discussion?
- Anonymous
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Trannies per usual
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lala lives dont matter
- Anonymous
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>>7 million turned out to be false (which isn’t surprising considering most servers are dead)
So it's higher? That's what I expected since the initial sub counts didn't seem to line up. - Anonymous
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i think ffxiv is a boring as frick game but you have to admit the story of the game (not the in game story but its real life redemption) is extremely unique and is quite a feel good situation
its not surprising that people would go to bat for it so hard, they want to feel like they were a part of it kind of like a reverse tortanicand wow has been dogsh*t awful for 15 years at this point so trolling the braindead blizzdrones still eating it up with another games success is very easy
- Anonymous
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MODS I swear to FRICKING GOD
- Anonymous
1 week ago
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nuhhhh it says XIV in the OP it must be the currently running FFXIV thread and not a malding WoW bait thread
- Anonymous
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at least the guy that reported the pony got what he wanted and has the jannies very aware of these threads now
- Anonymous
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the what
- Anonymous
1 week ago
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Someone that was trying to janny bypass some hours ago.
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>deleted the thread directly citing the rules
Be careful jannieThe guy sniping these can autosage threads, which means it's actually a mod. They probably got fed up with the topic.
- Anonymous
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fed up with what topic? Discussing a video game that came out two days ago?
- Anonymous
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Mods are extremely autistic.
- Anonymous
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janny bypass has gotten my tmobile range singlehandedly banned for abuse
hard to ignore reports when somebody is hammering the janny bypass i agree but somebody's gotta do it
- Anonymous
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>jannies actually paying attention now
Sheeeet, and here I was enjoying sh*tposting as hard as the old Smash threads, with the complete blindspot hereSee you all in 7.1
- Anonymous
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Is Dalamud still not up? I wanna use my market plugins.
- Anonymous
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This is the real reason why the wowjanny is upset
- Anonymous
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Yeah
- Anonymous
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I don't know why people are still paying for WoW. It seems like """Classic""" is more populated than whatever newest expac is out. At that point, just play a fricking private server. Or if you're tired of vanilla and want something different, you have things like Ascension or Conquest of Azeroth, both of which are free.
- Anonymous
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>deleted the thread directly citing the rules
Be careful jannie - Anonymous
1 week ago
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>everyone loves the zone where Wuk fricks off and leaves us alone for a while
Shocker - Anonymous
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the cutscene on the train was the only good part of texas
- Anonymous
1 week ago
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I would say Shaaloani if not for the pre-erasure final area being so nice.
After erasure it's Shaalo though.
- Anonymous
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>New jobs
Viper might be the most fricking bland job they've ever put out aesthetically and the one most disconnected from its own story and origin. Artifact armor isn't important even in a silly sense like Blue Mage's as a brand new job, it's just a coat the guy picked up from the Weaver's Guild. Mechanically it's pretty good.
Pictomancer is something of the opposite but not to the same extreme, excellent aesthetics and good gameplay, haven't gotten really hands on with it yet.
>Changes do old jobs?
They literally did not playtest most jobs, if any. Samurai, Black Mage and Monk are fricked. Dragoon's Mirage Dive is useless and now feels weird, not immediately being available off of Jump, Nastrond is similar with Geirskogul. Something about songs has changed to be ping-dependent, so Bard doesn't feel quite right even with its changes. Auto-Crossbow is now a damage loss on Machinist. - Anonymous
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It didn't get toppled, nothing would ever be able to topple it
It just knocked itself over
No matter how many better MMOs come out, the wow player base would have kept subbing since they have been for what. Like 15-20 years?
The only thing that could kill wow was them making horrible fricking decisions over and over and over. And they did