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♪ good morning. i'm jane pauley and this is "sunday morning." believe it or not, it's been nearly five years since the covid pandemic forever changed our world. during that time, few americans with been as talked about as much as dr. anthony fauci. the nation's former top infectious disease expert has been both lauded and condemned. most recently, just a few weeks ago before a congressional committee. this morning he is talking with our dr. jonathan lapook about that hearing and about the often contentious times that came to be a part of the job. first, today, of course, is father's day, and we have stories ahead of dads and children, including lee cowan's tale of a son who went searching

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for his biological father and wound up with a surprise of a lifetime. >> we are evolving how dna shows who you are connected to. >> reporter: these days all the commercial dna tests out there, it's pretty easy to find out just where you came from. but what happens when our dna has a story we're not sure we want to hear? >> we are constantly summoning up references to our parents, whether they are present or not. >> i guess we all have secrets. >> reporter: a journey to find a father with both heart and heartbreak ahead on "sunday morning." kevin costner has done just about everything in his career, as an actor, director, and producer in hollywood, but he has never faced a challenge quite like the one tracy smith will tell us about. >> welcome. >> reporter: to make 199 # 0s "dances with wolves," kevin costner kicked in more than 2

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million of his own dollars. but that's chump change compared to what he is pouring in his new four-part epic. how did it grow from one to four parts? >> i wasn't done. >> reporter: by the way, you are not receiving compensation right now? >> no. i must sound like a genius. >> reporter: kevin costner goes for broke ahead on "sunday morning." pete buttigieg rose to national platform nens back in 2019 as the first openly gay candidate to launch a major presidential campaign. since 2021, he served as secretary of transportation, but at home jonathan vigliotti has discovered buttigieg has an altogether different title. proud papa. >> reporter: so this is the national aviation system. no matter how much power and confidence you convey in washington -- >> look, it's an airplane. >> reporter: transportation

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secretary pete buttigieg knows nothing is more humbling than wrangling a pair of toddlers. >> just some of the best and most important parts of your life, not just your day. >> reporter: family values beyond the beltway later on "sunday morning." as we ease into summer, kelefa sanneh hits the road with country superstar luke combs who talks about his mega hit recording "fast car" and more. >> "bridgerton" star jonathan bailey tells michelle miller just how he has become the master of on-screen romance. and with the tony awards tonight here on cbs, mo rocca visits with broadway legend baayork lee whose career spans more than seven decades. it's a "sunday morning" for father's day, june 16th, 2024, and we'll be right back. ♪ ♪

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it's never a good time for migraine, especially when i'm on camera. that's why my go-to is nurtec odt. for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults. it's the only migraine medication that helps treat & prevent, all in one. don't take if allergic to nurtec odt. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. people depend on me. without a migraine, i can be there for them. talk to your doctor about nurtec odt today. on this father's day, lee cowan has a story about a man whose search for his biological father led to revelations that were far more surprising than he ever dreamed. >> reporter: this tale, like so many good yarns, begins with baseball.

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>> love that inside pitch. >> reporter: matt katz is a lifelong mets fan, playing with ball with his son reuben is what father's day memories are made of. but growing up matt's experience of father's day was about as complicated as a triple play. >> did my birth father like baseball? does he like baseball? because i had for many years no contact whith my birth father, would wonder. >> reporter: he raised by his jewish mother roberta and richard his jewish father. >> his father was out of the picture. he felt rejected. >> reporter: he tried to mend that? >> he did, he tried to see him, but didn't work out. >> no matter how much of a dad i am, he still needed to know where he came from. >> reporter: buts a boy, matt really never got any answers. >> why isn't he interested in hanging out with me, knowing me? where is he?

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>> reporter: when he was about the age his daughter sadie is now, matt noticed something. >> i looked different from other people in my family and a little bit different from other people at hebrew school. i had lighter features, redder hair. >> my grandmother was like, no, he is not jewish. >> reporter: deborah, matt's wife, is of ashkenazi jewish descent. so is matt's maom and his presumed biological father. so where in the world did the fair feate come from? >> i took a dna test, as my wife, to figure out a little bit more about our people. >> reporter: what were you expecting? >> to find out i was 100% jewish. >> reporter: instead? instead i found out i was half ashkenazi eastern european jewish and half irish. >> reporter: it seemed inconceivable and yet sort of made sense, too. >> i would look at myself in the mirror and be like, wow, you know, holy crap.

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you do look like a half jewish/half irish guy. >> reporter: like a four-leaf clover, his family tree started to blossom. he found out that he had three half siblings as well. >> it's like wild to be, like, middle-aged and all of a sudden have sister-in-laws and cousins and, i mean, that never existed before. >> reporter: here is the thing. none of them knew their dad either. but one of them knew something the others didn't. >> she tells me that she was conceived via sperm donor. >> reporter: which likely meant matt was, too. >> so you get this information. and then you've got to have a pretty awkward conversation with your mom? >> yes. >> reporter: right? how did that go? >> i was very nervous about. >> reporter: we should preface what follows by saying matte is a peabody award-winning journalist in new york. is used to tracking down

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answers, asking tough questions. not of his own mother. >> i remember sitting on the couch and he prefaced the conversation with how much he loves me and how much he loves richard and then he threw the bombshell. >> i said, did you ever get fertility assistance when you were trying to have me? she says, yes, they tried to get pregnant many years and it was hard. >> reporter: she said they had indeed gone to a doctor who discovered the problem wasn't her, but him. >> i wasn't hiding anything from anyone. the only thing i was hiding was the fact that i had artificial insemination. but i thought it was with my former husband. >> i told her, well, it's not what happened. it was donor sperm that you were inseminated with. and she put her hand over her mouth and i think she might have used the s word. >> once all of us were conceived in the same manner. then new reproductive methods.

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>> reporter: what roberta didn't know is back then doctors treating male inif tertility would sometimes mix a husband's genetic material with an anommous donor to help chances. matt was born happy and healthy. the secrecy left him in the dark about his true dad and his mom wondering with whom she had a child. do you wonder about him? >> yeah, i do. i could have walked down the street and he could have been there and, you know, i wouldn't have known. >> reporter: he was a shadow from 1970s manhattan. a ghost who seemed didn't want to be found. some of matt's friends questioned if matt should keep trying. >> the devil you know might be better than devil you don't, right? you had no idea where this was going? >> there is a risk. you don't know what you are going to find. you don't know if there is more hurt. >> reporter: these look like mathematical calculations on how

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to get to the moon. with matt and had his half siblings doubled down. the dna sleuth was brought in and essentially the picture turned up of a man with the same long face, same eyes, same hairline as all of them. his name was vincent mcnally. but matt needed more proof. >> we had to have been in new york city the day i was conceived. >> reporter: sure enough in an old 1976 new york city phone book a vincent mcnally was listed with an address in greenwich village. it was just brick and mortar. to matt it was gold. >> i feel it in my body. i feel like a sensation. he was here and he was in my presence in some way. >> reporter: matt's vincent mcnally in costume. turns out he was a professional stage actor. he donated sperm as a way to earn textra money. he found pictures of him, theater reviews and playbills

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and an eerie description of one of his final performances. >> one of those plays his estranged children, adult children come back and find him. >> reporter: but the ghost matt had been chasing all his life eluded him one final time. just before matt was going to call him to tell him the news, he found a death notice. vincent mcnally had passed away just four years prior. >> maybe we were never supposed to meet in person. >> reporter: just yesterday matt celebrated his daughter's bat mitzvah. two of his three half siblings were there, too. the blending of a now extended family long overdue. the smile makes it clear that matt has made peace with his past. in farpart, he believes, becaus talking about it has been healthy. he turned it into a podcast, "inconceivable truth." >> i don't think ihe is my father. >> reporter: it's found an audience of other people whose

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ancestry search is still ongoing. for matt he is just thankful for the stepdad that he celebrating on this father's day. the only man, it turns out, in matt's life truly worthy of the title dad. >> you don't need to keep searching anymore? >> i don't. but i can keep telling the story because it's a cool story. time to press rewind with... neutrogena rapid wrinkle repair. it has derm-proven retinol... ...expertly formulated... ...to target skin cell turnover... ...and fights not one—but 5 signs of aging. with visible results... ...in just one week. neutrogena i'll be honest. by the end of the day, my floors...yeesh. but who has the time to clean? that's why i love my swiffer wetjet.

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♪ ♪ and i got a feeling that i belong ♪ ♪ i had a feeling i could be someone ♪ ♪ be someone ♪ it was the moment at this year's grammys. country music star luke combs singing alongside 1980s icon tracy chapman on her song "fast car." their performance went viral, but as kelefa sanneh explains, there is a lot more to luke combs than that night at the grammys. >> you know i love to hear you sing.

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>> reporter: one of the biggest names in country music, but luke combs knows that his rendition of an '80s classic earned him another title. ♪ you got a fast car ♪ ♪ i want a ticket to anywhere ♪ >> reporter: oh, yeah, luke combs, "fast car." >> the "fasfast. he got only other songs. >> reporter: a lot of other songs. and enough fans to fill this super bowl-sized stadium two nights in a row. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: in less than a decade, combs has topped billboard's country air play chart 17 times. ♪ give it all ♪ ♪ she got the best of me ♪ >> reporter: he is known for his big voice, catchy choruses and down to earth attitude. ♪ ♪ i who are you to your fans? >> gosh, man. i'm really not very different than them, you know?

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i'm a decently average looking guy to below average looking guy, okay? let's be honest here, you know what i mean? i don't take myself too e seriously ♪ i'm in love ♪ ♪ and loving on you ♪ >> reporter: a luke combs concert has no pyrotechnics and no costume changes. just a guy in a black fishing shirt. >> when i started playing music it was a me and a germany and a song and somebody that wanted to hear it, whether that was three people in my living or 50,000 people in a stadium. it's always been about the connection between me and whoever is listening. >> reporter: combs, 34, grew up in north carolina, an only child crazy about music. >> as long as i can remember, i have just been singing. ♪ you got a fast car ♪ ♪ i want a ticket to anywhere ♪

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♪ here i am baby ♪ >> constantly listening to music and singing to stuff on the radio. i enjoyed that. ♪ i get carried away ♪ >> i started learning guitar at 21. by 22 i played a show and just became, like, this is the avenue that i want to take in my life, you know. >> reporter: it didn't come easy. >> i wrote a lot of bad songs. but i enjoyed the pros so much, never felt lake to work. >> reporter: he moved to nashville where he played every bar that would have him and identify to get the attention of record executives. did you get, man, these labels are never going to sign me? >> i did. i think the most discouraging was i felt like at that time i am not getting passed over for, like, my ability. i am getting passed over because i don't look the part. that was frustrating. i never let it bum me out because i was happy. doing what i wanted to do. regardless of anyone else's opinion, i was making a living, i was doing it, like i am a

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college dropout, i'm here, my parents aren't paying my bills. like i'm doing it. ♪ you rode in with your hair in the wind ♪ >> reporter: what that means is when you get signed, when you get a single put out and get on the radio, you were ready? ♪ ♪ ♪ hit me like a hurricane ♪ >> reporter: the luke combs thing takes off immediately. song goes to number one. >> it went. happened, man. >> reporter: next one. >> luke combs! >> reporter: the country music association named him entertainer of the year twice in a row. ♪ so remember when we were driving ♪ ♪ driving in your car ♪ >> reporter: for him, the biggest biggest honor was to sing a song he loved all his life with a woman who lowrote it.

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>> i am at the grammys, singing "fast car" with tracy chapman. what is going to on, dude? like taylor swift is bopping to me singing "fast car." what is happening, dude? >> stick a fork in me, dude. i'm done. i am so good with that. all right. see down there. >> reporter: combs lives outside of nashville. >> feel more at home in one of these or a tour bus? >> oh, gosh, one of these for sure. >> reporter: where he and his wife nicole are raising their two boys. ♪ i hope he never finds out that i didn't hang the moon ♪ >> reporter: they inspired his new album, "fathers & sons." >> every song has something to do with fatherhood or, you know, being a son or being a dad. >> reporter: it's a concept album? >> in some ways. it's a way less smart concept album ♪ baby i finally will be the man

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he sees in me ♪ >> reporter: for luke it was an opportunity to pay tribute to his father, chester combs. >> my parents both worked 50 hours a week. my dad was essentially a maintenance man. he was a very creative guy that was trapped in the blue collar world. >> reporter: luke's ■dad was surprised but supportive when he said he wanted to be a singer. >> he was excited about me pursuing something in the creative field, but he was also pretty realistic about how difficult it would be to achieve that. ♪ it mate work out ♪ >> reporter: he opened minded about his own sons, tex and beau. ♪ i will love whoever you turn out to be ♪ >> whatever they decide to pursue or whoever they decide to love, it doesn't matter to me. like as long as they're happy and they are fulfilled in their life, like that's what i care about. ♪ beautiful, crazy ♪ >> reporter: of course, what he

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has chosen is a life on the road. >> so, obviously, i am gone three days a week. i want them to know even with my career the biggest it will probably ever be, they are my number one priority. >> we played in australia. we played in europe. >> the irony of your life, you are leaving home, travelling all over the world and singing songs about your life back home. >> yeah. ♪ there out to be a law against the working man ♪ still having this much fun ♪ >> i dread leaving them and my wife. i know i am going to go live my dreams and do everything i wanted to do, but sometimes everything you ever wanted to do changes. >> reporter: and so luke combs splits his time between family and football stadiums. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> reporter: not bad for a not so regular guy in fishing shirt. >> i'm just really thankful that

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some performers just have it, that irresistible quality difficult to explain, but impossible to miss. audiences seem to agree that jonathan bailey is most definitely one of those performers. he is in conversation with michelle miller. >> i do. a moment longer. >> reporter: from his turn as a beverage beverage heartthrob to the electric love scones with fellow co-star matt bomer in "fellow travelers," jonathan bailey seems to have mastered

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the art of the on-screen romance. you and damn chemistry. you seem to have it with everybody you're in a space with. we have chemistry. >> we have chemistry. >> reporter: major chemistry. we met the british actor in his hometown outside oxford to discuss, among other things, that chemistry. >> and i shall like to use that. >> reporter: which is partly responsible for his career altering role in netflix's smash hit "bridgerton." now in its third season. >> to be able to go from "bridgerton" and go straight into a sweeping gay love story this way is just the first step. the idea that it's even possible is great. >> reporter: that sweeping gay love story takes place in 1950s washington. >> the pervert is easy prey to the blackmailer. >> reporter: senator zwjoseph mccarthy wasn't just after communists. his congressional witch hunt also targeted government employees suspected of being gay. >> we should not be disturbed

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about people because of their morals. we are disturbed about them because they are dangerous to this country. >> reporter: this dark chapter in history is the subject of "fellow travelers," which explores the fictional love affair between two closeted capitol hill staffers at the height of mccarthyism and the so-called lavender scare. >> what that meant for a community was kind of lost at that time because it wasn't really talked about. >> reporter: it was quiet? >> yeah. >> reporter: secret. >> completely suppressed. >> reporter: 10,000 people -- >> taking their own lives. losing their jobs. losing their respect of their communities, their families. >> reporter: being outed. >> being outed. >> reporter: a lot has changed. bailey and his co-stars in "fellow travelers" are openly gay, but the lavender scare helped shape lasting cultural attitudes towards hom*osexuality in america. >> when you hear mccarthy's speech and the rhetoric they

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used in '53 saying they were weak and a threat to the nation, sends issueders through my body. there is an empathy to people would have therefore had a completely confused understanding of the gay experience. that it was something that should be demonized or seen as a choice or a threat to society. >> reporter: the series streaming on paramount plus, a division of our parent company, weaves the gay experience through the civil rights era, vietnam, and the aids crisis. but at its core is a love story. >> i haven't loved anyone but you. you are my great consuming love. >> reporter: you do romantic leads rather well. >> thank you. >> reporter: you do lot of romantic leads, whether it's gay romantic lead, heterosexual romantic lead. >> yeah. it's funny. i guess the exploration of

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romance i find really fascinating. there is something happening between two people. it's exciting to play that. >> reporter: growing up he played the role of theater kid, not pushed by his parents, he says, but by his own passion for acting, singing and dance. >> so i was down to play basketball, but the ballet classes were happening in here. i was obsessed with everything that was going on in here. >> reporter: he joined the class and was at first, he says, blissfully unaware how others might see it in a negative light. >> i had this bound its enthusiasm. testament to my parents. wasn't hyper aware i was the only boy within 50 miles wearing leotards. i loved it. >> reporter: you stopped bali? >> i did. >> reporter: why? >> it became clear when i was 13, i remember i brought a friend home staying for the weekend. dude, yeah, basically, yeah, we're gonna do that. before that i have to pop in. so many girls. it's going to be amazing. you're gonna love it.

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cut to me in a leotard, okay? and all these women and girls around me. i thought this was -- >> reporter: cool? >> mega. i remember clocking his eyes across the room. it was that moment in me that i went, oh, this isn't actually right thing i should be doing. i just suddenly became aware of a story and a narrative that was put on something that i was so passionate about. so i actually decided not to continue with the dance. but i was acting and singing. >> reporter: what pulled you back in the direction of this is who i am? >> it's about masking, isn't it? what are you prepared to continue to fight for? and for me it very quickly became obvious i wanted to be completely authentic. >> reporter: that authenticity has served jonathan bailey well. he went on to acclaimed performances in everything from shakespeare to sondheim, including a london revival,

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earhim a coveted laurence olivier award. >> a lovely snapshot of gay love. >> reporter: now set to start in the injury "jurassic world" film franchise and has a lead role in "wicked," the star-studded mav adaptation of broadway's long running musical out later this year. >> dance and singing is, you know, a dream come true. and when i met the director who talked a lot about actually growing up and about dance and what it meant and to play a character is now, you know, full circle. >> reporter: a full circle moment and a nod to a childhood passion that persisted. what if there was a cruise that felt like no other? a cruise created by foodies— for foodies. one chef for every 10 guests, every meal prepared to order,

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a hero to some, a villain to others. perhaps no figure to emerge from the covid pandemic is as controversial as dr. anthony fauci. so how did an 83-year-old infectious disease expert become such a lightning rod? dr. jon lapook starts at the beginning. >> my bedroom was right there. my sister's bedroom was right there. and the pharmacy front was right here. >> reporter: those he calls friends call him tony. >> yeah. >> reporter: say that again. >> 13 and 83rd. >> reporter: you know you're from brooklyn. and growing up here on 13th avenue in dyker heights, brooklyn, in the 1940s and '50s. tony fauci was the precocious son of the corner pharmacist. >> they called him doc. he served as the neighborhood

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psychiatrist, marriage counselor. so it was serving the community. >> reporter: though the fauci pharmacy is long gone, beneath the calm facade dr. anthony fauci has shown the world more than 50 years, he is still, as he says, brooklyn tough. you got into fights? >> yeah. every now and then. how can you not? >> reporter: how did you do? >> i am not the biggest guy in the world. >> reporter: at 5'7" you were the captain of the basketball team. how did our do that? >> i was fast and i had a good shot. >> reporter: what killed your nba career? >> i found out a very fast good shooting point guard who is 5'7" will always get destroyed by a point guard who is 6'3". that became very clear. >> reporter: you had to settle for medicine? let me just settile for science. whatever. >> reporter: there are millions today who oh their lives to the work of the man who settled for science. and as he chronicles in his new

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memoir "on call," dr. fauci's career treating infectious disease at the national institutes of health has been book-ended by the two great pandemics of our time. aids and covid-19. >> federal health officials consider it an epidemic, yet you rarely hear about it. >> reporter: when it widely appeared in the 1980s, a diagnosis of hiv/aids was a death sentence. looking at your background you were brought up in brooklyn in the '40s, a conservative family? >> yeah. >> reporter: you may not necessarily predict you would go on to treat a group of people were kind of shunned by society. what went into that. >> what it was that one of the predominant themes in my home, which was fortified with the jesuit education, was empathy. my father was quite conservative, you know. an eisenhower type republican. as was my mother. but my father was very, very much guided by empathy.

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for anybody. >> reporter: although empathy nor aids patients was in short supply, and he was criticized early on, dr. fauci used his position at the nih to lobby the white house for funding and national attention. he worked with seven presidents on aids, bird flu, swine flu, ebola, zika and covid. an aids program started with george w. bush saved an estimated 25 million lives worldwide. with blinken, he established the nih's vaccine research center that laid the groundwork for the record breaking development of covid vaccines during the trump administration. but that last collaboration hit a wall. that brings us to april 3rd, 2020. that was the day president trump had a press conference and he said things have changed and the cdc is now recommending people wear masks. >> right. >> reporter: and then then-he added -- >> this is voluntary. i don't think i am going to be doing it. >> i was deeply disturbed by that because he had the opportunity as the leader of the

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country with a very strong devoted following to say the cdc is recommending masks and i am going to wear a mask because masks are going to protect me and protect others. that really was a missed opportunity because that was a signal to his devoted followers that you don't really have to listen the cdc. you don't have to listen to the public health messages. >> reporter: as the country's willingness to follow advice split on party lines, dr. fauci came under attack. during covid you actually received death threats. has that ever happened before? >> no. not credible death threats where a person is arrested who was clearly intending to kill you, and that has happened at least twice. acting like we have a virus that's the common enemy and we are fighting with each other. >> do the american people deserve to be abused like that,

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mr. fauci? because you are not doctor. you are mr. fauci in my few minutes. >> reporter: he was called before a republican-led congressional committee to discuss pandemic origins and preparedness, but things quickly spun out of control. >> what this committee should be doing, we should be recommending you to be prosecuted. >> reporter: how did we go as a country from absolutely adoring jonas salk, who helped develop the polio vaccine, he was a national hero, to dr. anthony fauci having to have security details to stop people from killing him? >> it's a reflection of the psyche of the country. if the purpose of the hearing is to figure out how we can do better to prevent and respond to and prepare for the neck pandemic, that doesn't even begin to contribute to that. > reporter: one of deepest points of controversy is the still unknown origin of sars-cov-2, the virus that caused the covid-19 outbreak.

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because the nih has funded research at the wuhan institute of virology in china, there are accusations that american tax dollars could have paid to create sars-cov-2 through genetic manipulation, called gain of function. isn't really the issue behind all of this controversy that those coronaviruses, the ones that were funded by the nih, were fiddled with it turn it into the virus that causes covid-19. is that biochemicalically genetically possible? >> no, when you have a virus, if you are going to manipulate it in a way to make it a dangerous virus, you have to start off close enough to the virus that you ultimately make that it is mlecularly possible to do that. what is absolutely 100% certain is that the viruses that were studied under the nih grant for

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the kinds of experiments that were done molecularly were so far removed from sars-cov-2 that they could not have turned it into sars-cov-2 even if they tried, which they, obviously, didn't do. but it was just so what we call phylogenetically distant. >> reporter: which the public don't know. >> the public doesn't know what phylogenetically distant means. it means that evolutionarily it would take 20 years of evolution to get it there. and that's something that just slips between the cracks when people talk about it. what we're talking about is what the nih funded, was viruses that could not possibly have done that. >> none of us can know everything that's going on in china or in wuhan or what have you, and that's the reason why i keep an open mind as to what the origin is. >> reporter: covid origins aside, dr. fauci has been

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subjected to other accusations. people have accused you of getting all sorts of money from pharma and this and the other thing. you have been offered money to leave the nih, right, and join, say, pharma, right? >> right. private equity. >> reporter: how many times your current salary have you been offered about? >> at the time i was getting offered it,is was making 125,000, $200,000 and i would get offered a job making 5, 6, $7 million a year. >> reporter: why didn't you take it? >> i felt what i was doing was having an impact on what i cared about, which was the health of the country and indirectly the health of the world. and to me that is priceless. >> reporter: there have been ups. there have been downs. >> right. >> reporter: a lot of friction recently. any redwrets? >> no. no. i mean, when you say regrets, any regrets of what i did, my

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hey, dad, you want to have a catch? >> i'd like that. >> it's "sunday morning" on cbs and here again is jane pauley. >> as an academy award winner and star of the hit series "yellowstone," kevin costner is no stranger to epic film making. but now as he tells our tracy smith, he is tackling a tale so ambitious, he needs four movies to do it justice. >> action, abbey. >> reporter: when frank sinatra

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sang "my way," he could have been singing about kevin costner. the oscar-winning actor director on work on his most ambitious project to date. a four-part saga of the american west and just like old blue eyes he is doing it his way. by the way, sinatra liked to have a little fun with reporters, too. >> looks like you did your homework. >> reporter: i did. >> i wonder what i was supposed to be doing. >> reporter: it's nothing you can't answer. >> right show the people for a second, i have to deal with this. >> reporter: so you finish shooting parts one and two. you're in the middle of three and four. your baby, part one, is about to be born. how are you? >> i'm okay. i'm okay. i'm like a wagon headed west, too. i run into everything that you could imagine. i have to hold on to the rope because i got this pack with the

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audience that i'm going to give them something, let them i want them to go west. >> reporter: go west indeed. costner's "horizon: an american saga" is spectacular in every sense. >> i want to help her. >> reporter: there are four parts, each one feature length, and costner says he put his own money, $38 million, into the project so far. i just hear, i don't know if you have seen the producers, n nath lane's voice saying, never put your own money in the show. >> that's true. it's not true for me. you know, conventional wisdom, right, what if everybody's wrong? >> reporter: you could practically see where all the money goes, especially if you happen by one of costner's shooting locations, like the one he showed us outside of moab, utah. around here it's not so much a movie set as a time capsule. every detail is accurate down to

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the doorknobs. do you feel like the setting is a character, too? the town is a character? >> yeah, you want to create an environment that's authentic. so it's an important piece. >> you and i are standing guard on one of last great open spaces. looks like a promising place. >> the place i might be able to see myself. >> reporter: the story is authentic, too, about the lure of the old west and the tragedy of the people who lived here first. >> these towns, they weren't like mushrooms. they didn't just pop up. they were fought for. this land was contested. and it was always an ugly finish for the native americans. always. and so those are themes that while i'm embarrassed by that, kind of ashamed how it went down, i'm also not afraid to talk about it. i like it. >> reporter: yeah, and there is a story there. there is a hell of a story there. >> there can be.

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>> roll camera. >> reporter: costner's own story is pretty epic, as well. his directorial debut was 1990s "dances with wolves" and he had to put his own money into that one, too. when it premiered, "the new yorker" film critic pauline kael called it childishly naive but costner had the last laugh. >> "dances with wolves," kevin costner. >> reporter: the film won best picture and costner took home best director as well. costner's made other big movies, of course you may know him from a few baseball films in the '80s. seems he has always felt comfortable in a cowboy hat. >> nothing happens in this valley i don't know about. >> reporter: he helped make "yellowstone" a monster hit for our parent company paramount, but that's over now, maybe. so tell me, did you have to leave "yellowstone" in order to complete "horizon"? >> no, i did everything that i was contracted to do with

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"yellowstone." >> reporter: would you like to go back? >> yeah, if i like the story where it was going, i would go back. >> reporter: but right now he has his sights set on something else. "horizon" part one is in theaters next week. part two comes in august. and parts three and four are due sometime after that. how did it grow from one to four parts? >> i wasn't done. you know? i mean, listen, how one became four, even i kind of go, really, kevin? but it's so good right now. i really love it. >> tomorrow you be aware of the time. i want you to draw your water and get your team hitched to hit all these others. >> reporter: costner says he had this story in his back pocket for three decades. why did he make these films now? he says the young man in this

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scene, his real son hayes, is a big reason. >> i saw hayes at 13 and i said, i got to do this movie. >> reporter: it was your son? >> yeah. i said, i want him in that movie. i'm going to make it. >> reporter: and that was it? >> that was it. [ applause ] >> reporter: the film's debut in cannes earned him a standing ovation and also drew less than glowing reviews. to 69-year-old kevin costner, making the movie is worth anything and everything. will you ever put your money in a project again? >> i probably will. in world of business, of movies, i don't think i should have to. but the reality, if nobody wants to go fishing with me, i'm going to go anyway. >> reporter: if you have any money? you will? >> no, that was mean.

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i am teasing vichlt sorry. >> it's okay. if i have any money? i know one more bad deal, i'm out of business. >> reporter: now he is hoping crowds will line up like fans who got a sneak peek on tuesday at joint reserve base, fort worth, texas,. he is still raising money for parts three and four. but like a famous cowboy once said, courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway. this is the hardest thing you have ever done in your life? >> it has been, and continues to be. if i hear the word billionaire one more time, i think i am going to roll over because i don't have that kind of money. and i believe in this enough to just go, you know, all these scaredy cats, probably why they have so much because they are smart and they hold on to it. i'm not that. i just really believe in the idea of what this can be, and so i just keep pushing it.

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at age 42, pete buttigieg already has held a number of important titles. mayor, presidential candidate, and for the past three years secretary of transportation. and as jonathan vigliotti found out, he has recently added a new one. papa. >> who is ready for pancakes? >> reporter: when it comes to a pair of toddlers -- >> oh! >> reporter: pete buttigieg, the seemingly unflappable secretary of transportation, looks -- >> do you want me to cut your pancakes? >> reporter: jet lagged. what do the kids call you? >> daddy. papa. >> reporter: who is good cop? who is bad cop? >> i don't know if we have it down to good cop/bad cop. >> i think the face of chasten says something else. >> really? >> i think of myself as the bad cop. you think i am a pushover. >> 100%.

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>> reporter: the good cop and his husband chasten buttigieg raise their 2-year-old twins penelope and gus in traverse city, michigan. >> sand and muck. >> reporter: they recently moved here full time from washington to be closer to family. >> i found a stick. >> reporter: their journey to parenthood began nine years ago. >> our first date. >> reporter: the first date? >> well, you brought it up on our first date. >> i did, yeah. >> i was still figuring out dating, period, when we had our first date. it wasn't just my first date with chasten. it was may first date with a guy. >> reporter: really? >> yeah. not necessarily true. >> reporter: the married in 2018. a schoolteacher and a hyper driven harvard grad, rhodes scholar, navy vet and mayor of south bend, indiana. a year later he launched his history-making run for president at the age of 37. >> i am a proud son of south bend, indiana, and i am running for president of the united

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states. >> i think the presidential campaign aged our marriage five years. by the time it was over, i think we both understood that we were ready to start a family. >> reporter: they chose adoption. a campaign unto itself. >> like so many adoptive parents, there were some false starts and some heartbreaks and then -- are. >> reporter: what do you mean by false starts and heartbreaks? sometimes you get the call, but it turns out it's not the call. >> a couple times we go to bed thinking maybe the next day we might be parents, and then the phone call comes in and a different family was selected or something else happened. i think about five times. >> reporter: five times? >> yeah. >> reporter: then came the call. >> oh, man, i get so emotional when i talk about it. they are so little. they were 4 1/2 pounds. we walked into the room. we were frozen. and the nurse said, dads, you

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can hold them. >> reporter: that joy turned to fear when their son gus caught rsv. a common virus that can be deadly for infants. >> most parents don't think you are going to be the kind of parents who knows their way around a children's hospital. next thing you know, that's us. >> the work doesn't ever completely go pay way. sometimes we'd have to take my laptop into the bathroom of gust' icu room, close the door and then put a virtual background on zoom. >> reporter: these days, gus and penelope are hard to keep up with. how important is this time for both of you? >> oh, it's the best time. >> for any parent, you are trying to get from task to task to task. then you got to stop for a second and realize these are some of the best and most important parts of your life, not just your day. >> reporter: for buttigieg, work is all consuming.

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>> labors, iron workers. >> reporter: he is the chief project manager and salesman. >> this is a big deal. >> reporter: for the trillion dollars infrastructure law to help rebuild america's aging roads, bridges, and rails. >> three, two, one, go! >> reporter: in april, buttigieg helped break ground in las vegas on the nation's first high-speed train, shuttling passengers between sin city and the l.a. area. >> and in four years, the high-speed train will terminate where we're walking now. >> that's the vision, that's the plan. it's ambitious. america is built on ambitious, aggressive plans to do big things. this is iconic. i mean, this will be one of the cathedrals of american infrastructure. >> reporter: but then there are other cathedrals collapsing. which we raised in washington. >> you have faced a number of crises as secretary . the ports, airline meltdown over christmas, train derailment in ohio, blowout of the boeing

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plane, bridge collapse in baltimore. do you see a systemic problem here? >> when we got here we were facing the most intense and multifaceted disruption to our transportation systems since 9/11. that was related to covid. that's not the only problem. the problem of underyinvestment has built up over 40 years. >> reporter: if president biden is re-elected, how much longer do you stay on as secretary? >> i don't know. and i don't mean that to abpolitical answer, though it sounds like it. i don't think i will break longevity records if this job. i love this job. i also know that this is a job you can only do for so long. >> reporter: is there a world where you see penelope and gus living in the white house in 2029? >> i don't know about that. that's just not how i'm thinking about even the near future. >> reporter: really? >> no. if anything, having kids that little makes you think more than anything about the really

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why was "a chorus line" such a big hit? >> i think we were the first reality show. >> reporter: you think so? >> oh, absolutely. we played ourselves. >> reporter: baayork lee played one of those dancers, doing what they do for one simple reason. ♪ what i did for love ♪ >> the theme song that marvin hamlisch wrote for us, what i did for love, really is what it's all about. we love what we do. it's the passion and the dedication and the discipline. >> reporter: not what i did to become a star? >> exactly. >> reporter: the musical was the brainchild of director michael bennett, who was known for incorporating contemporary dance moves into his choreography. take this number from 1968's "promises, promises" with music by burt bacharach and featuring

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lee. it is an extraordinary dance. my biggest question is, how did you actually keep your heads on your necks? >> we would go to the chiropractor once a week. >> reporter: "promises, promises" was baayork lee's third show as a michael bennett dancer, but her path to broadway began much earlier when she was 5 years old and living in new york's chinatown. >> so this is mott street. so back, i think, in the '30s, earlier than that, there was only one block, two blocks. >> reporter: that was chinatown? >> chinatown. >> reporter: back then, lee's world revolved around this two-block stretch where she went from her catholic grammar school to the restaurant wo hop, which her father founded in the 1930s.

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do you remember your father doing this? >> absolutely. >> reporter: in 1951 when rodgers and hammerstein's the "king and i" starling yul brynner was casting the roles of royal children, baayork and her brother ventured uptown to audition. >> and there were thousands of kids there, looked like thousands of kids there. we all got on the stage and i saw chandeliers and i saw velvet seats and i was just mesmerized. >> reporter: had you shown any evidence before 5 years old that you might want to be a performer? >> no. >> reporter: did you take to it immediately this performing thing? >> oh, absolutely. >> reporter: baayork lee had found her calling. and then when you were 8, what happened? >> i was let go because i out grew my costume. >> reporter: thems the breaks? >> yes. >> reporter: did you go on unemployment? >> i went on unemployment. my mother had to pick me up.

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everybody knew me at the unemployment office. here she comes. >> reporter: for a while she attended the prestigious school of american ballet. >> here i am in the "nutcracker." >> reporter: directed by george balanchine. the original "nutcracker." soon enough, it was back to broadway. then here you are with the great sammy davis jr. >> yes. and here him here with tommy tune. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: when "a chorus line" opened, lee was still only 29, but it would be her last show as a performer. >> opening night michael bennett said you are going to take this all over the world and i just looked at him and laughed, you know? really? >> reporter: he basically handed you the keys? >> yes, he handed me the keys opening night. >> reporter: lee was starting a new act in her career. since 1975, she has helped cast and direct productions of the musical all over the world.

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>> five, six, seven, and a one change. >> reporter: the role of nurturer came naturally to her, as i can attest. >> point, step, kick, tap, change. >> reporter: in 2009, lee co-founded the national asian artists project. >> good to have you. >> reporter: the goal? exposing asian americans to the joys of musical theater -- >> this way. >> reporter: and this 78-year-old isn't just lending her name to the cause. we saw her rehearsing aspiring performers in that turkey lurkey dance. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: and later introducing them to a crowd of tourists at a midtown manhattan hotel. and in 2017, baayork lee earned the isabelle stevenson tony

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award for her work. >> i really cherish this because it is about me helping my community. i'm not my shows, not all the things i have done. i really take fried in this. let's see the arms again. you know when to do it. here we go. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: today, baayork lee, a child of the stage, has raised more broadway babies than she can count. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: do you feel this represents your life's work? >> absolutely represents my life's work. >> reporter: which isn't done yet? >> no. freeze, freeze, freeze. good. cut. let's do it one more time from the top.

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ever wonder why we clap? just where does the tradition of applause come from? well, it turns out striking the palms of your hands together is almost as old as humankind. you can even find a mention in the bible. back in roman times, rituals to express audience approval were part of the program. at the end of a performance, the chief actor would call out, valete et plaudite. farewell and applaud. the appreciative audience was only too happy to oblige. centuries later, in french theaters, a claque. an organized group of paid applause professionals was commonly used to encourage audience enthusiasm. they were also charged laughing at jokes, faking tears when sadness was in order, and, of course, were the first to yell,

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